Posts by Big Dog

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Current light on will die at Armageddon?

by Teddnzo in

my wife zoe and i often talk about her grandmother who has never been a jw but is an excellent christian by other opinions.

she has led such a good life always kind and tried to follow jesus example.

before the agm new light my wife often thought according to current light is that as long as she dies before armageddon she will be resurrected.

Big Dog

I once saw a bumper sticker that said "Armadillos not Armageddon," that sums up my position.

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the magazine that they are studying in the congregation this month has an article at the back about how pornography in a marriage could damage the relationship.. there's one piece of advice that sounds rather scary, the wt suggests that the couple should "consider asking an elder with whom you are both comfortable to sit in and guide your discussions for a time.".

how many of you would want an elder present in your home while you and your partner discussed your personal sexual cravings and the type of porn videos being watched?.

Big Dog

Am I to understand then that the WTBS is ok with porn as long as its not damaging to the marriage? Wow, that's pretty enlightened thinking for that bunch.

Makes sense though considering they have equity holdings in PornHub.

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What's next?

by lastmanstanding in

what's next for the world?

a year ago i edited a map of the world to include some big arrows to tell the story of what is to come.

and i shared that map with various friends.

Big Dog

Makes me think of a line from a Stephen King novella "Queer weather. Coupled with the grueling winter we had come through and the late spring, some people had dragged out that old chestnut about the long-range results of the fifties A-bomb tests again. That, and of course, the end of the world. The oldest chestnut of them all."

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Convention Blast

by Zilgee in

jw convention blast in kerala india.

one died.

Big Dog

These kinds of acts are beyond the pale. The people who commit atrocities like this forfeit all claim of humanity.

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Noah + new understanding

by dothemath in

so they mentioned noah couldn’t have preached to all the population back before the flood.

do you think they might start using common sense regarding not being able to get every animal type on the ark from the whole world?.

maybe the poor sloth from south america didn’t have to crawl all the way?

Big Dog

Oh the poor fundamentalists, even most of the mainstream churches view the first eleven chapters of Genesis as creation for dummies rather than historical narrative.

As I mentioned in another thread the flood account was one of the first issues I had with the theology I was being indoctrinated with as a child. Too many things about that story made no sense even to a middle school aged mind.

If you are going to argue for the existence of God, the flood account is not the hill to plant your flag on, or young earth, or any of the other stories in Genesis.

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My conclusion on the matter

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

after being brought up a jw, going to mts, bethel, pioneer school multiple times, serving in foreign assignments and having been an elder for decades my conclusion is that i am now pima, physically in mentally agnostic.. agnostic means you think it can’t be proven either way creation or evolution.

i do tend to lean towards evolution but creation at the very start because you can’t get life from dead matter.

but i’m open to the possibility of chance theory at the origin of it all.

Big Dog

As a side note ExBethel, you may want to watch some of the debates between John Lennox and Richard Dawkins, not just for content but as a nice example of how civilized discourse and debate is done. Their debates are definitely germane to the topic(s) of this thread.

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My conclusion on the matter

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

after being brought up a jw, going to mts, bethel, pioneer school multiple times, serving in foreign assignments and having been an elder for decades my conclusion is that i am now pima, physically in mentally agnostic.. agnostic means you think it can’t be proven either way creation or evolution.

i do tend to lean towards evolution but creation at the very start because you can’t get life from dead matter.

but i’m open to the possibility of chance theory at the origin of it all.

Big Dog

I have to agree with Cofty on this point. That's a membership in a club whose annual dues are far too high. You can find that sort of camaraderie and brotherhood in far more healthy environments. I've often felt that people that stay in when they are as you describe are more akin to someone displaying battered spouse syndrome. They have been abused for so long they begin to think they deserve it and can't imagine breaking away from their oppressor.

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Dan Brown to George Orwell. What would you do?

by Slidin Fast in

jw
friends

an artis in the uk pulped 6800 copies of the da vinci code, reconstituted the paper, and reprinted as 1984 by orwell as above.

i for one applaud the idea.

what use for the publications would you find?.

Big Dog

Toilet paper

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Confirmation that religion is dying.

by Phizzy in

this is from a site called "atheist republic" :.

" the phenomenon of "nones" — individuals who claim no religious affiliation — is rapidly reshaping america's religious landscape.

recent surveys by the associated press-norc center for public affairs research indicate that 30% of u.s. adults identify as nonreligious.

Big Dog

I think many of the nones simply don't think about it most of the time and only when questioned do they have to think about how they identify. Secularism has been on the rise for decades and with the rollback of religious themed activities in the schools and in popular culture it just isn't on most people's screen on a daily basis. Most are thinking about work, kids, bills, vacations, etc and religion or spirituality isn't even an afterthought.

I was talking to a young boy a couple of houses down and he had no idea what Easter was. I asked if they did anything in school for easter and he said no. His parents don't go to any church but have said they are believers. Religion, at least here in the states, has just largely fallen out of the general consciousness of the populace, especially those under say 30.

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My conclusion on the matter

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

after being brought up a jw, going to mts, bethel, pioneer school multiple times, serving in foreign assignments and having been an elder for decades my conclusion is that i am now pima, physically in mentally agnostic.. agnostic means you think it can’t be proven either way creation or evolution.

i do tend to lean towards evolution but creation at the very start because you can’t get life from dead matter.

but i’m open to the possibility of chance theory at the origin of it all.

Big Dog

I can't say that I have had your experience with Ex-B so I can't speak to that.

I guess I just try to remember where we all came from and really try to have patience as much as possible but I agree, there are limits.

Even though I left home as soon as I could and attended college it still amazed me at how long it took me to deprogram myself completely. Some people never get there.

I would say at this point maybe a policy of not engaging and moving on to more rewarding discussions might be in order.